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Carb's venting 10 years 6 months ago #3269

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Am I the only one that thinks these carb's are the touchest thing and a serious pain in the ass. I have never had in my life any of my bike have a flooding problem like these's things. In fact this is the only bike of the 4 bikes I have owned that does this. I get these thing set for a while then some thing goes a bit a miss and the next thing I am fighting a flooding problem. I also don't care much for these spring loaded needle seats I think there part of the problem. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

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Carb's venting 10 years 6 months ago #3270

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You aren't on your own there I was always having problems almost from the first day I bought it and it only took 3 or 4 sumps full of fuel to make me remember to turn the fuel off.
I remember riding from Gladstone to Brisbane (about 300 Miles) and turning the tap on and off at regular intervals to stop the fuel getting into the airbox and super rich running because one or more were constantly flooding. I got very good at judging just when to turn the tap.
I would say that in the 27 years I was riding it that was the most consistent problem.
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Carb's venting 10 years 6 months ago #3275

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Yeh flooded mine a while back, lot of oil to change and a filter, finally figured out it was that nasty little spring clip holding the needle in, some replacement ones are angled in and sometimes hold the needle open or shut, the one that caused me the problem was also the one that shut off after a while and made the bike run on only 4 cylinders, so that made me look at the clip, couldn't figure out the flooding problem till that happened and I had a real good close look at that clip. Some from a spare set of carbs were a lot better, straighter in the angle it goes over the needle, gave it some room to work without the chance it will bind, bike is running great, I had thought it was the way I set up the fuel levels, checked and re-checked, adjusted, checked again, then the little light bulb blinked on over my head and I found that clip was "wrong", looked ok, worked now and again, just lucky I caught it stuck shut and the edge touching the side of that clip.
after tuesday even the calendar goes WTF
1979 KAWASAKI Z1300 A1 WITH A DJP SIDECAR
Frame No: KZT3OA003911
Engine No: KZT3OAE004153
Location: Queensland Australia

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Carb's venting 10 years 6 months ago #3278

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Hello All:

As far as our carbs being a curse or a cure, over the years I have found it comes down to three main issues.

For rebuilding and refurbishment:



a: Do we have a good core set to begin with? This is the main foundation to any carb set working well.

b: Are we working with a quality rebuild kit? I have seen flaws in kits, so while rebuilding it takes a magnifying glass and close attention to detail to make sure parts are uniform.

c: Workmanship. Related to your float valve issue, I too have had sticking needles in the valve. Upon further examination I discovered that I had installed the spring in the wrong position and it was causing the needle in the seat to bind. It's easy during a carb build to miss a step or not fully seat an item.

And if I may, let me add cleanliness, Cannot stress enough quality shop air with a rubber tipped nozzle to concentrate that air in the right spots. As stated in other posts, the passages in these carbs are quite small, and require a strong stream of air to blow them out. Another tip I have found is how much air is coming out of the other side of the circuit as you are using that air nozzle.

In the past I have found clogged passage ways by physically feeling the amount of air on the far end of the circuit you are applying air to.

These carbs can be difficult, especially if you have a core that is not ready for service. It's especially frustrating when you buy all of the parts, just to find that you have to do it all over again.

In the end, patience pays off and I find it useful when I am frustrated, I count to 10, or go for a ride, then re-engage the carb build.

Regards.

T.
KZ1300 A-4 4TH 1300 IN 30 YEARS
KZ1000 D-3/ Z1R
ZX900 GPZ A-3
KZ750 E-1
K1200GT
CB750F 1978

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Carb's venting 10 years 6 months ago #3282

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I got to tell you Guys I am not a guy that quits but these carbs have made me see red a few times. There back together again and I dropped the float level just a bit. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

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Carb's venting 10 years 6 months ago #3283

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As mentioned in countless posts previously.,........

The 1300 carbs are terrible, the worst ever, very poor.

Who ever designed them was an idiot & was on a temporary job position & knew NOTHING about carbs..........thats why the bike ended up with FUEL INJECTION.

Never design anything with a fluid flow IN with a valve.................. without an OVER-FLOW out !!!!!!!!

Learn to live with them & expect flooding & trouble...............or go mad !!!

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