Deep sump wanted

I’m looking for a deep sump and oil pick up plus anything else I need to convert my A1. I’m UK based. Beer tokens at the ready 

PaulD wrote:

I’m looking for a deep sump and oil pick up plus anything else I need to convert my A1. I’m UK based. Beer tokens at the ready 

I've been looking for one on all the sales sites in Europe for weeks and I haven't found anything.

I personally don't think trying to get the higher capacity oil pan is worth the trouble and unless one just happened to land at my feet, I wouldn't bother.

The first year, year and a half, Kawasaki had an oil consumption problem and rather than figure out the source of the problem and correcting it, they opted to build a deeper sump. The 1979 and half way through the 1980 model year, they increased the oil capacity from 4.6 Liters to 5.3 liters so .7 liters or .73 US Qt. Their thinking we believe was to ensure riders didn't run out of oil between oil changes.

Late in 1979 Kawasaki realized that the oil consumption was due to a piston ring cylinder fit issue and they came out with a Service Bulletin requiring the 1979 and early 1980's to have a cylinder hone and new piston rings and for the most part, this fixed the problem.

Something else to consider- 
ZX14 oil capacity - 4.5 L with an oil filter change ( .1 L less than the KZ1300)
GSXR 1300 Hayabusa - 4.5 L with a filter change
CBX 1000 4 L sump but during initial filling 5.5 L due to the need to fill the oil cooler and piping

Most automobiles only have a 6 L oil capacity when including an oil filter even up to a 5 liter engine.

The biggest issue I see with the KZ1300 is that the oil runs hot. The engine is massive in frontal size and sits right behind the exhaust down pipes and the radiator. dumping all that heat in front of the engine and of course the engine will run hotter.

The original stock exhaust was a double walled header pipe system and that would substantially help control the heat in front of the engine but almost all of the KZ's and ZN's have got replacement exhaust systems and the pipes are all single walled which will dump heat immediately in front of the massive engine block.  You could use header wrap on the pipes but my personal experience with header wrap is that the wrap will absorb moisture during down time and that will prematurely rot out the exhaust pipes. I had to use it on my F350 Ford truck with 400 series stainless pipes and within a year and a half, I had perforated pipes.
I'm a bigger fan of ceramic header coatings since they will add corrosion protection and also keep a lot of the heat in the exhaust pipe until it exits at the tailpipe. Jet Hot coatings is one option and it's not cheap. Don just had his headers coated and once he gets the bike up and running, will be able to report on the effectiveness of having the pipes coated. I think he had  Cermachrome- By Bright Hot Headers  ( this is his topic)

Another DIY option is an internal ceramic coating offered by  Eastwood's Internal Exhaust Coating  Which I plan on trying. At $30 a can (which is enough to do the header pipes) it looks like an interesting option.

Scotch decided to come up with a way to cool the oil and at the same time make changing the oil filter an easier job. He designed an oil filter adapter to relocate the oil filter and use a common spin on filter. This also added to the oil capacity. He's really happy with his mod . It's an interesting read  Scotch's Spin on Oil Filter / Cooler Adapter

My observations and experience with the larger oil pan /sump.
They are very hard to find. We had this discussion about a 10 years ago and the first observation was , as Kawboy stated, concerned high oil consumption on the 1979- early 1980 models. The solution from Kawasaki was to add a larger oil volume - and fix the consumption problem . Some members thought the larger sump began showing up on bikes mid 1980.  I have  3 workshop manuals.
The first was printed Jan.22 1979. On page 21 it states oil capacity with filter is 4.6 litres.

The second manual was printed Dec.14 1979 and it too states on page 21 the same 4.6 litres. But this manual also has a supplement added starting at page 283  covering the 1980 model and the changes that were made and on page 286 , the oil capacity now is 5.3 litres.



The third manual was printed in May 14, 1997 to cover  models from 1979 to 1983.   It too states on page 21 the same 4.6 litres with filter. But the supplements at the back of the manual then cover 1980,1981, and 1982.

The 1981 supplement on page 303 now states the oil capacity at 6.2 litres . The 1982 supplement is the same 6.2 litres.

So the first question would be , how was the increased volume of oil - from 4.6 litres to 5.3 litres accomodated. ?

I installed the 6.2 litres oil pan along with the  clutch cover with the larger window { good idea -- to easier see where the oil level is at }
I have never heard of or seen  a third size oil pan - that is - there was only ever a  4.6 litres and a 6.2 litres oil pan. But made there is  ???
The clutch cover with the bigger window is the same size as the original 1979 small window cover.

 

 

this is where I go to Partzilla.com and use (abuse) the privilege of their data base. This is a screen shot of the deep sump part number and which years after engine serial # used.  As you can see as far back as 1979 after engine number 016038 the deep sump was used

 

That screen shot is misleading at best. Yes, the large oil pan will fit a 1979 bike , because the bolt pattern is the same, but it's not correct for that shot to suggest that the large pan 490345005 was original on 1979 or 1980 bikes , because it wasn't. the 79 & 80's part # 490345008.

Also, the service manual - printed jan 22 1979  , page 21 states the oil capacity is 4.6 litres. The photo above that table B 6  , is B 28 and it clearly shows the oil pan with the drain plug facing forward - that is the small pan  # 490345008

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This company in the Netherlands has far better schematics, differentiating between kz 1300 and Z 1300--- ZG 1300 and ZN 1300
www.cmsnl.com/kawasaki-kz1300a4-1982-usa...0/pan-oil_490345005/

So anyone looking for the large oil pan -they even have one -- for 200 Euro.