Thanks mate, not sure about the e-bay link, didn't show anything, I may of put the wrong subject down for this question, what I want is a "special tool", perhaps I should of put down a "valve lifter holder", I use to use it to change the shims, great tool, I copied a mates one, case hardened it and blued it, it was a work of art, easier to use than the press steel one you buy today, it just sat nicely on the side of the bucket and held there without the danger of the bl**dy thing rolling, slipping or popping out, i'll see if I can attach some diagrams from the manual, heck if someone has one and can do some measurements i'll try and make another one for myself, cheers Pete.
not this thing
This tool
From manual
it's almost the same as the cheap one just thicker and better made, I think the part number is 57001-1153 , but not 100% sure on that