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Replacement Ignition? (1979 A1)
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3 years 3 months ago #29652
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1980 KZ1300 B2 Touring/A2
1990 ZZ-R1100 C1
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On my first A1 I had an isue just after I bought the bike with rough running under 2000rpm. Turned out to be cracked original coils leaking. The dealer I bought it from put some alternatives on that were similar shape and size but with screw on HT leads and fixed the problem.
1980 KZ1300 B2 Touring/A2
1990 ZZ-R1100 C1
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3 years 3 months ago #29658
by SteveSmith
1979 KZ1300-A1
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Yes, the fault does feel like something intermittent/electrical.
I’m tempted to buy 3 new coils but don’t actually know what to buy.
I’m a bit confused about all the talk of ballasts etc
I’m tempted to buy 3 new coils but don’t actually know what to buy.
I’m a bit confused about all the talk of ballasts etc
1979 KZ1300-A1
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3 years 3 months ago #29659
by SteveSmith
1979 KZ1300-A1
Replied by SteveSmith on topic Replacement Ignition? (1979 A1)
Opted for
3 coils
6 plugs
6 caps
6 leads
from wemoto.com
that will eliminate all the obvious I guess, then I’ll have to head down to Baker Street
3 coils
6 plugs
6 caps
6 leads
from wemoto.com
that will eliminate all the obvious I guess, then I’ll have to head down to Baker Street
1979 KZ1300-A1
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3 years 3 months ago #29660
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Replied by biltonjim on topic Replacement Ignition? (1979 A1)
Steve - have you read this thread from the beginning:
www.kz1300.com/index.php/forum/electrica...-z1300-kz1300-how-to
The AW82 coils seem to be a popular ,reliable and reasonably priced option as replacements for the originals.
www.kz1300.com/index.php/forum/electrica...-z1300-kz1300-how-to
The AW82 coils seem to be a popular ,reliable and reasonably priced option as replacements for the originals.
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3 years 3 months ago #29710
by SteveSmith
1979 KZ1300-A1
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Chaps,
I’ve received my 3 new coils etc.
But my new coil terminals don’t have +be or -ve on them …
Does it matter or how do I determine which is which please?
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Interestingly, the bike had 3 different makes/sizes of coil on it and the leads looked pretty tired. Even the wiring was a mix of colours and sizes. All new now of course.
I’ve received my 3 new coils etc.
But my new coil terminals don’t have +be or -ve on them …
Does it matter or how do I determine which is which please?
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Interestingly, the bike had 3 different makes/sizes of coil on it and the leads looked pretty tired. Even the wiring was a mix of colours and sizes. All new now of course.
1979 KZ1300-A1
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3 years 3 months ago #29711
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Replied by Kawboy on topic Replacement Ignition? (1979 A1)
The KZ1300 uses wasted spark ignition coils. The primary winding and the secondary winding are isolated from each other. If you check the resistance between the + and - terminals of the primary you should find around 1.2 - 1.9 ohms. The secondary winding is checked by placing the meter probes in the 2 ignition wire sockets and you should read around 18000 ohms. The final check is between one of the primary terminals and one of the ignition coil sockets. There should be an open circuit since the primary and secondary windings are isolated from each other.
In a standard coil ie. single terminal, the spark generated by the secondary winding travels from the coil ignition socket through the ignition wire to the center electrode of the sparkplug, across the electrode to the ground electrode, then through the engine block and back to ground. The ground of the engine is also attached to the negative terminal of the ignition coil so this completes the circuit of the "spark" making its way back home. On that type of ignition coil you will find that the secondary coil socket will so a resistance when a ohm meter is applied between the primary winding terminals and the secondary coil socket.
So in an answer to your question - You can think of your primary winding as a filament in a light bulb. It really doesn't matter if the power is transmitted one way or the other through the filament, the bulb functions. Same goes for your ignition coils. There really is no dedicated + - terminals on wasted spark coils.
In a standard coil ie. single terminal, the spark generated by the secondary winding travels from the coil ignition socket through the ignition wire to the center electrode of the sparkplug, across the electrode to the ground electrode, then through the engine block and back to ground. The ground of the engine is also attached to the negative terminal of the ignition coil so this completes the circuit of the "spark" making its way back home. On that type of ignition coil you will find that the secondary coil socket will so a resistance when a ohm meter is applied between the primary winding terminals and the secondary coil socket.
So in an answer to your question - You can think of your primary winding as a filament in a light bulb. It really doesn't matter if the power is transmitted one way or the other through the filament, the bulb functions. Same goes for your ignition coils. There really is no dedicated + - terminals on wasted spark coils.
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