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Signal Cancel Module repair
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Signal Cancel Module repair
6 years 9 months ago - 6 years 9 months ago
Thought I'd remove the cancel module and see if I could determine why it hasn't worked for almost as long as I've owned the bike.
I warmed the case and the end-cap released and the potted-circuit-board pulled out cleanly ! Soaked the entire block (epoxy) over night in some lacquer thinner. Next day I started picking. Once the soldered side of the board was cleaned I fluxed the terminals and re-soldered each one. Also soldered the 6 harness block and 2 bullet plug terminal ends. Plugged the unit back into the bike and using my cordless drill (chuck) I spun the front wheel. 24 rotations and the unit turned the signal off. Repeated several times. Unit now works. The circuit-board slides into to the case in a track. Used some hot-glue to secure the board in this track and a bead on the inside perimeter to seal the snap-in case-end.
I warmed the case and the end-cap released and the potted-circuit-board pulled out cleanly ! Soaked the entire block (epoxy) over night in some lacquer thinner. Next day I started picking. Once the soldered side of the board was cleaned I fluxed the terminals and re-soldered each one. Also soldered the 6 harness block and 2 bullet plug terminal ends. Plugged the unit back into the bike and using my cordless drill (chuck) I spun the front wheel. 24 rotations and the unit turned the signal off. Repeated several times. Unit now works. The circuit-board slides into to the case in a track. Used some hot-glue to secure the board in this track and a bead on the inside perimeter to seal the snap-in case-end.
1980 KZ 1300 sr# KZT30A-009997
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Last edit: 6 years 9 months ago by scotch.
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Re: Signal Cancel Module repair
6 years 9 months ago - 6 years 9 months ago
I was a little disappointed in not seeing an obvious bad solder connection. Unlike my last OEM style V/R.
Bad V/R joints !
A close look at the "Cancel" board (with some magnification) showed a few soldered terminals that were "dull" but nothing that was an "ah-ha" moment. I was prepared to dig-out the component side and test each until I found the defective one. Fortunately, re-soldering each connection fixed the issue.
Bad V/R joints !
A close look at the "Cancel" board (with some magnification) showed a few soldered terminals that were "dull" but nothing that was an "ah-ha" moment. I was prepared to dig-out the component side and test each until I found the defective one. Fortunately, re-soldering each connection fixed the issue.
1980 KZ 1300 sr# KZT30A-009997
Always High - Know Fear !
Always High - Know Fear !
Last edit: 6 years 9 months ago by scotch.
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Re: Signal Cancel Module repair
6 years 9 months ago
Nice work!
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Re: Signal Cancel Module repair
6 years 9 months ago
I don't know what the failure rate is for the auto-cancel module. There's plenty for sale on eBay ! There-in lay the concern for myself. I couldn't rationalize buying a "used" one only to discover it wouldn't work. Even if the seller accepted the return, I'd still be out the return shipping and be back to square one. A repair attempt seemed logical.
Todays S.M.T. technology could likely reduce the size of the module to 1/4 the size of the OEM controller; the greatest limitation to size reduction would be the need for a circuit board big enough to establish connections for the 8 wires. It was interesting to see so many components incorporated into the original design.
Todays S.M.T. technology could likely reduce the size of the module to 1/4 the size of the OEM controller; the greatest limitation to size reduction would be the need for a circuit board big enough to establish connections for the 8 wires. It was interesting to see so many components incorporated into the original design.
1980 KZ 1300 sr# KZT30A-009997
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Re: Signal Cancel Module repair
6 years 9 months ago - 6 years 9 months ago
Congrats scotch on your success!
In the last photo the top connection looks loose, and I'm making out the other two were not solid as well. I think these were actually your smoking gun.
In the last photo the top connection looks loose, and I'm making out the other two were not solid as well. I think these were actually your smoking gun.
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