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Magneto Puller 8 years 11 months ago #10298

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now im sure someone will correct me BUT i can vaguely remember that a rear wheel spindle or something such like would screw into the end
and as you tightened it up give the end a tap with a hammer.
this worked on suzuki magnetos but im not sure about kawasaki. just thinking outside the box


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Magneto Puller 8 years 11 months ago #10307

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Not having carried out this procedure myself, I cannot be sure, but I guess the bolt "D" in the illustration, is threaded into the end of the crank shaft to protect it from the central forcing screw / rotor extractor "B" , when that is wound in. I think any suitable universal flanged puller will achieve your aim, if the bolt spacings are suitable. When I was working on chain saw engines years ago, I often used something similar.
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Magneto Puller 8 years 11 months ago #10312

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Yaegunp wrote: I'm having trouble removing the starter motor clutch assembly. I have removed the torsion damper mounting bolt but have failed to perform any McGyver tricks to remove the assembly.

Does anyone know if the Magneto Puller has a thread in the middle where the rotor puller goes through?

Or does the magneto puller just stop the crank from turning?


Ok, problem solved! Or at least how to get the starter clutch assembly off (the piece of steel is still stuck in the centre of the crank and I will get that sorted tomorrow.

Here is the tool (harmonic balancer puller) you need to remove the assembly and it works a treat: -



Here is how it works: -



Don't try to use a rotor puller on the non-US model Z1300 because it won't work as there is no sub-alternator on our australian model.

This is what the starter motor clutch looked like once I disassembled it, not very flash I'm afraid as the three bolts that hold in the starter motor clutch had worked there way loose. I didn't see any evidence of loctite so if you're looking at performing any work in this area make sure you clean these bolts thoroughly along with their corresponding threads and use loctite on them (Non-perm of course)


You can clearly see where the rollers have badly scoured the back of the torsion damper plate. The edges of the plate have been seriously chopped-up and I can't really tell what caused that. The bolt holes are warn and elongated from the loose socket bolts.

The torsion damper hub has clear damage where it meets the starter clutch gear, the raised outside edges are the worst: -


The starter clutch has serious scouring from the rollers. One of the springs and it's cover are still jammed in the hole and the other 2 springs were broken - So the roller were essentially just bouncing around inside the starter clutch: -



I am now very aware that this has been happening for longer than it should have :huh: but it's all part of the journey I guess. Surely there is a good reason why I sold the Honda VTX 1300 and kept a bike that was 25 years older than it and the first reason I think of is that the Z1300 was waaaaay more fun (especially with the sidecar). I can't think of a second reason.
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Magneto Puller 8 years 11 months ago #10320

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That must have been making a hell of a noise for quite some time and the PO didn't hear it or was he just stupid?? What a mess and I guess the only saving grace is that the 3 cap screws go in from the back so they couldn't completely come out and turn into shrapnel.

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Magneto Puller 8 years 11 months ago #10321

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Kawboy wrote: That must have been making a hell of a noise for quite some time and the PO didn't hear it or was he just stupid?? What a mess and I guess the only saving grace is that the 3 cap screws go in from the back so they couldn't completely come out and turn into shrapnel.


There are 2 guilty parties here John. The first and foremost is the seller (not the owner) of the motorcycle who is a reasonably well known Z1300 specialist who lives 1000kms from where I live. I remember a noise being there at the time I bought it and was told that it was normal for the bike and its age (the noise was only noticeable at idle). Who was I to question a guru?

The second guilty party is of course my naive self :whistle: who has owned the bike for the last 8 years. Albeit, the bike has only done just over 300 km's in the last 3 years. The majority of the damage, I believe, was done very recently in my efforts to get the bike started after redoing the carbs and installing new ignition coils. There was a lot of cranking going on at that time with very little engine noise.

So the answer is the previous seller was cunning and the current owner was stupid :S. The current owner is becoming less stupid the more he learns about these glorious bastards.
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Magneto Puller 8 years 11 months ago #10326

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Yaegunp wrote:

Kawboy wrote: That must have been making a hell of a noise for quite some time and the PO didn't hear it or was he just stupid?? What a mess and I guess the only saving grace is that the 3 cap screws go in from the back so they couldn't completely come out and turn into shrapnel.


There are 2 guilty parties here John. The first and foremost is the seller (not the owner) of the motorcycle who is a reasonably well known Z1300 specialist who lives 1000kms from where I live. I remember a noise being there at the time I bought it and was told that it was normal for the bike and its age (the noise was only noticeable at idle). Who was I to question a guru?

The second guilty party is of course my naive self :whistle: who has owned the bike for the last 8 years. Albeit, the bike has only done just over 300 km's in the last 3 years. The majority of the damage, I believe, was done very recently in my efforts to get the bike started after redoing the carbs and installing new ignition coils. There was a lot of cranking going on at that time with very little engine noise.

So the answer is the previous seller was cunning and the current owner was stupid :S. The current owner is becoming less stupid the more he learns about these glorious bastards.

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