2025-02-11 Throttle Stop Not Adjustable? (Carb Pivot Point why?)
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2 months 6 days agoKawaBCN, if not too much trouble, can you check to see if the throttle plate is contacting the mechanical stop when butterflies are closed? See my post below.... If so, please take a pic of the various mechanisms so I can see the relationships between Idle Adjust, Fast Idle Adjust, and Butterfly positions?
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Re: 2025-02-11 Throttle Stop Not Adjustable? (Carb Pivot Point why?)
2 months 6 days ago - 2 months 6 days agoSadly. I did read the FSM before posting. Sometimes, sometimes, things get lost in the translation from Japanese manual writers and this dumb as a rock shade tree hack hick.The answer to your question is outlined on page 17 in the Factory Service Manual. You need to read the section on throttle cable adjustments and understand exactly what the instructions are telling you to do. The Manual even states what the purpose of the "cable bracket" is and why it's there.
...and, sometimes I like to ask the question to the 'gurus' who might, hopefully, provide insight beyond the FSM.. I recognize my weaknesses, and asking for help is not one of them.
And, asking for help from the OG just might encourage more forum interaction on this maybe, 10 active users forum.
I read pages 17-19, 49-50, 167-168, 138-129. Over and Over.
And yet here I am, wondering why in F in this pivot point exists or what the primary purpose is and why did Kawa spend money to make this a 'feature'?
And... why can't I get it to adjust properly? What am I missing?
I have to two racks, one OEM,one eBay, and neither perform per the FSM. Is it me or is this just a hosed up factory thing?
Actually spent the F'n time to make a video to show what I'm experiencing.
Please, oh those smarter than I, tell me what I'm missing?
I am asking you guys to please take time to look at the video and provide comments.
Edit. Changed Subject to "2025-02-11 Throttle Stop Not Adjustable"
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2 months 6 days ago - 2 months 6 days ago
And two hours later after searching find this post..
Basically saying 'Disregard This'...
" I'll throw this out there to stimulate thought. That spring only comes in to effect when turning the throttle in the deaccelerate direction and I believe it's a damper spring to prevent placing too much tension on the return throttle cable. To set the throttle return cable, start with free play in both throttle cables and then tighten the return cable until you can pull that gap closed when rotating the throttle in deaccelerate direction. That sets the throttle return cable. Then adjust the throttle accelerate cable to get your 2-3 mm free play.
My personal opinion is that it's a bit of overkill. I can't see any situation where it would be needed. When the throttle plates close the throttle arm comes up against the idle adjust screw so that spring has no effect on throttle closed position. "
More in a bit.. late, PUI.. LOL.
Basically saying 'Disregard This'...
" I'll throw this out there to stimulate thought. That spring only comes in to effect when turning the throttle in the deaccelerate direction and I believe it's a damper spring to prevent placing too much tension on the return throttle cable. To set the throttle return cable, start with free play in both throttle cables and then tighten the return cable until you can pull that gap closed when rotating the throttle in deaccelerate direction. That sets the throttle return cable. Then adjust the throttle accelerate cable to get your 2-3 mm free play.
My personal opinion is that it's a bit of overkill. I can't see any situation where it would be needed. When the throttle plates close the throttle arm comes up against the idle adjust screw so that spring has no effect on throttle closed position. "
More in a bit.. late, PUI.. LOL.
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Re: 2025-02-11 Throttle Stop Not Adjustable? (Carb Pivot Point why?)
2 months 5 days ago - 2 months 5 days ago
3 operating sets. Same as the ones currently on my '80. No Gap - No Run !
The two cable bracket removed for a cleaner arrangemnt
That reminds me: Time for my Oatmeal with Raisins !
The two cable bracket removed for a cleaner arrangemnt
That reminds me: Time for my Oatmeal with Raisins !
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Always High - Know Fear !
Always High - Know Fear !
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Re: 2025-02-11 Throttle Stop Not Adjustable? (Carb Pivot Point why?)
2 months 5 days ago
Think I found out true reason why Throttle Stop not contacting Cable Assembly...
Thoughts? Comments?
Thoughts? Comments?
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2 months 5 days ago
In conclusion... don't worry about this adjustment seems to be common consensus?
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